Suggestion - Action Points

[JadeFalcon]

I was playing the old Fallout, and I was thinking on this.

Currently, we have 3 actions per turn, independently of class or equipment.
I propose the following:
- Make all classes have 2 actions per turn
- Then depending on Armor and Weapon:
1. Light/medium/Heavy armor would have +2.5/1.5/0.5 actions points
2. Small/medium/heavy weapons would have +2.5/1.5/0.5 Actions points

Meaning that a lightly equipped Rogue would have 2+2.5+2.5 = 7 actions per turn, while a hulking tank would have 3.
This would mean that players would be forced to do a tactical choice between heavier weapons and armor, versus more movement.
I do understand that this would force coding changes, and balancing of weapons.. but I think its relatively simple system, and would definitely add flair to the game.

PS: At level 25, +1 Action would be added to the base.

[daedroth]

War. War never changes.

[NiteHawk]

It is a neat idea but I'm wondering if it's too complex.

If anything I would probably do it using armor only. Weapons is over complicating it and it's too hard to balance then I think. There is the issue as well of helmets/etc too. Could ignore those for now though.

Dunno though, seems neat but might again be overly complex and hard to balance.

[daedroth]

In fallout it was based on agility (stats max of 10)
action points: 5+1/2 agl (6 to 10)
and different weapons took different amount of AP from 3 to 7
inventory use took... 3 or 4
standing up about the same
perks could give more AP, perks could reduce the cost of certain actions...
i dont think armour would affect action points much at all (if you were going for realism, seriously google people moving in full plate armour, they did not appear too encumbered at all by it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-bnM5SuQkI there are better ones, but the dance at the end is worth it) it would tire you out quicker though
so eh...
good luck with this idea

[NiteHawk]

In fallout it was based on agility (stats max of 10)
action points: 5+1/2 agl (6 to 10)
and different weapons took different amount of AP from 3 to 7
inventory use took... 3 or 4
standing up about the same
perks could give more AP, perks could reduce the cost of certain actions...
i dont think armour would affect action points much at all (if you were going for realism, seriously google people moving in full plate armour, they did not appear too encumbered at all by it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-bnM5SuQkI there are better ones, but the dance at the end is worth it) it would tire you out quicker though
so eh...
good luck with this idea

This isn't fallout my friend.

[daedroth]

I know, I am just saying thats how fallout did it.

[NiteHawk]

I know, I am just saying thats how fallout did it.

Ah yeah 8)

[Aieron]

Armour impacting how many actions you have feels really unintuitive because the less weight you have, the more able to move you would be. The inverse would be interesting though. Imagine a fully armored Knight who only gets 2 attacks (maybe he'd get more taunt actions still to remain 'good'?), but his hits HURT REALLY BADLY.

Not sure if I like this method of differentiating rounds, but I do think the round/action system could be better.. Just not sure how yet.

[kaijick]

People tend to enjoy doing more actions, even if it means with smaller returns each. This is because more actions mean less downtime. You take your turn in half a second, then wait idle for 10 seconds watching your screen; that's called an idle game. I ran 6 windows because it gave me more action. There's nothing fun about sitting for 6-10 seconds doing nothing after I spam my actions. This goes for the vast majority of people that will (hopefully) eventually come across this game.

Edit: This is not an idle game nor is it intended to be. That was an example.

[Kruell]

Who is going to pay the salary for Chris so he can work full time to write the code and balance the whole thing out? You are talking about a major undertaking which would require a complete overhaul to the combat system including the most basic of formula. Do we want this game in the foreseeable future or are we willing to wait until quantum computers are available as tablets?

This isn't a FPS game. As a text game of course there will be some "idle" time between actions. The current time (as shown on the stamina bar) gives a person enough time to process what is happening, monitor their character, and perhaps interact in clan chat.