EXP Rates

[Cerebrus]

@Cere - calm down, dont go getting your pumpkin spice latte yet sweetheart.


I meant we have access to more knowledge, better equip, FRIENDS, and other advantages that MIGHT NOT be offered to newer players.

Not that you and BH cheat or blah blah wtf ever.

lol'ing @ pumpkin spice latte

I wasnt being pissy or anything, was just confused by your post. It read kind of funny to me. Wasnt sure what you meant.

[Ardrahz]

Im going through waves of customers at the shop, so im doing fly-by txting from my phone. Might have come out weird haha.

[Folder]

lol latte.

Anyways I'm hardly complaining, I think the grind is too long. You think the grind keeps people playing and I think the opposite. When you guys say things like it was "easy" how many hours a day did you play, and did you straight grind xp to get to 25 or did you ever explore or try and find new things?

Easy is a relative term so let's talk specific. How many hours do you estimate it took to level? I would guess 50-80 depending on class and if you want to be 100% professional about it. Is that how long we want it to take? It seems high to me.

Something else you need to consider is that a number of us who leveled quickly did it before the group changes. Leveling in a group of 15 was nuts xp, that option isn't there anymore and now PKing is a real thing (which is good, not saying anything against that). Leveling has slowed down and groups are not as readily available.

[Lateralus]

Dont lower the exp again lol Its fine where it's at. Exp is already lower than Rok's was and leveling has been pretty easy for me. I think everyone else is doing it wrong.

You cant treat the populus the same as you and Brotherhood Cere. New players arent offered all the advantages players like you and myself possess. The needs of the may type of situation.

This is very very true. Solo leveling is much harder than party leveling where you are getting dragged around hardly hit and really dont even need to be at your computer if you have enough people in the party to heal/take hits.

After the changes I can make about 1.5x more exp in a good party than i can soloing in gy. In dreadlands where there is a lot of downtime to eat and use potions im assuming its even slower solo (if you class can even survive). On top of it being slower taking way more skill its also more demanding meaning you cant do it as long. its no sweat hitting the same macro for 2-3 hours in a row while being carried around and taking breaks while still getting exp but actually playing the game to solo level for 2-3 hours is a diff story. Im not really sure what the answer is party exp seems pretty fair it just really sucks to level atm. this is just something id like to point out ive done a lot of solo leveling testing things and not trying to get mixed up in all the guild maddness =). The people that seem to be for the exp staying where it is leveled in huge groups when party exp was about 50% higher. I do agree we need more content at 25 if we are going to keep people active and playing but i feel like thats another issue somewhat. again i dont have the answers just giving feedback.

[killa]

Grouping is easier. why don't people group up.... i spent at least half of my time leveling in a party full of purgatory, and a lot of them did the same with us lol. Theres always a group or 2 in the GY, when leveling most people are happy to get another person when the groups not full, it just splits up the damage more, go out and ask?

[killa]

And if you don't want too that's your own fault, don't complain its taking too long

[Cerebrus]

lol Solo leveling is just boring. You still gain more exp by yourself. Yes party leveling is "Easier" because it requires little to no effort if you're not the party leader. It's almost like a keystroke recorder and creating a loop. It does all the work for you while you sit back and watch the experience roll in. It's also easier on your pockets since you rarely take damage in a party. More people = npc doesnt focus all it's attention on you.

[killa]

lol Solo leveling is just boring. You still gain more exp by yourself. Yes party leveling is "Easier" because it requires little to no effort if you're not the party leader. It's almost like a keystroke recorder and creating a loop. It does all the work for you while you sit back and watch the experience roll in. It's also easier on your pockets since you rarely take damage in a party. More people = npc doesnt focus all it's attention on you.

YOU KNOW I LIKE TO DO WHATEVERS EASIER

[Folder]

Killa you and I leveled in groups together before people were 25 and PKing was a thing. Do you see Purg and BH groups leveling together now? Not so much. I guarantee you anyone new to the game steers way clear of anyone with the BH tag.

Think of someone new to the game who doesn't have friends, guilds, or maybe just plain wants to solo. It shouldn't be a huge bag of dicks for that person. I've levelled to 25 after the initial rush and I'm doing it again now. It's far slower now guys.

I'll say again I estimate 50-80 hours to level 25 depending on class, grouping, etc.. Any other inputs on real time values and where they should be at? Trying to move this away towards objective discussion instead of subjective. 10mil/hour is very good xp at 22+ and it's nearly impossible to maintain, but even at that point you're looking at 300mil (so 30 hours) for plenty of classes.

[killa]

I was level 22 when the 6 man team rule was put in. That's why i complained on the forums

But i actually have no idea of the man hours put in... i did not bother to count