Ringleader Changes / Discussion

[Cerebrus]

Dont think it was mentioned, but raiders arent the only thing dropping keys

[Honzo]

It's all good man, I appreciate all sides of things. I get where you're coming from for sure.

But seriously fk this boss lol. Personally I'm just jaded and bitter because I've killed him probably 15 times and only ever seen 1 drop. To be fair though at this point it's lvl20 gear and once an oad shield is out RL can burn in hell for all I care .

edit: I still think the idea of turning in multiple ithons for loot is cool. Or that could be an idea for a future boss, lots of MMOs do things like that.

What is an Ithon? Also is this similar to the Badge system that they have in games like FF14 and WoW? Turn in X badges to get a piece of loot from a list?

[Folder]

Dont think it was mentioned, but raiders arent the only thing dropping keys

This is true, but I've killed hundreds of the other mob that drops them and I've never seen one drop. Sure you CAN find a needle in a haystack but do you really want to?

Ithon Crystal is what RL drops and you can turn in at the cloaked figure in the sewers. It's a consolation prize. Yes it was proposed that maybe we tried some kind of system where you turn in X crystals for real loot, creating incentive to do RL more.

[Cerebrus]

Dont think it was mentioned, but raiders arent the only thing dropping keys

This is true, but I've killed hundreds of the other mob that drops them and I've never seen one drop. Sure you CAN find a needle in a haystack but do you really want to?

Ithon Crystal is what RL drops and you can turn in at the cloaked figure in the sewers. It's a consolation prize. Yes it was proposed that maybe we tried some kind of system where you turn in X crystals for real loot, creating incentive to do RL more.

Got a golden key 3:01am (off of Raider)
Got 2nd golden key 3:25am (off of guard)
Got 3rd golden Key 3:29am (off of guard)

[Folder]

I dunno what to say, RNG is RNG. Like I said I've killed hundreds without a drop. I'm guessing the % on it is like 1-2% chance?

[Honzo]

I dunno what to say, RNG is RNG. Like I said I've killed hundreds without a drop. I'm guessing the % on it is like 1-2% chance?

Prewipe I got them off the Guards as well but since the wipe I haven't even seen one XD. So don't feel bad, I'm in that same boat! XD

[Lateralus]

I dunno what to say, RNG is RNG. Like I said I've killed hundreds without a drop. I'm guessing the % on it is like 1-2% chance?

Its a .8 (1:125) chance so on average you need to kill 125 of them to get 1 key. there are about 10-12 spawns while you could put a killing team together they also have a somewhat slow respawn speed. you are much better off using your killing team to farm actual items since most greens are 1% off npcs. I guess cere is pretty lucky tho.

they are 10% off raiders (1:10) so a much better chance off raiders.

[Folder]

I dunno what to say, RNG is RNG. Like I said I've killed hundreds without a drop. I'm guessing the % on it is like 1-2% chance?

Its a .8 (1:125) chance

HA I knew it

[Styx]

Change it so it's 2 rooms

First room drops key
Second room is boss

If monster in room 1 drops key then you get to go kill boss
If no key dropped then you wait

Key spawn time varied and when key drops boss spawns

So if you kill and get a key you have one shot at the boss

So if you only want to farm keys , good luck

And if key boss is there then the final boss will be doable granted you live

[Styx]

Change it so it's 2 rooms

First room drops key
Second room is boss

If monster in room 1 drops key then you get to go kill boss
If no key dropped then you wait

Key spawn time varied and when key drops boss spawns

So if you kill and get a key you have one shot at the boss

So if you only want to farm keys , good luck

And if key boss is there then the final boss will be doable granted you live