Ihr seid alle Kinder. (i'm learning german)

[Vindal]

On one hand I find it absolutely mind blowing that after MONTHS of having the only end game content on farm you get a little upset after getting beat out for only two days, but on the other hand as someone who at least sees that the "WIAC" mentality isn't one sided like you make it out to be ... I get it.

To say that only one side routinely acts in a way that is only beneficial to their friends/guild is an absolute lie. I have seen it from Silo players, I have seen it from Stasis players, and I have seen it from Defiance players. We have each done and said things that have made the game more fun for ourselves, and less fun for others. I distinctly remember farming Christmas keys for two hours and then getting rolled by 12 Silo members, guess what ... that wasn't fun. That isn't a behavior that is isolated to one guild, or even just this one game. I can understand the rage pages after something like this happens, which is why I asked Jake and others to contact me when they have calmed down.

To speak to your specific point there will not be any more logging with keys, we discussed it internally after the event and agreed that isn't behavior we should be practicing. So you can save yourself more days of raging and many more forum posts if that is what you are actually after. I can openly say that logging when under attack is wrong, and that we did it, please don't deny that it hasn't been done by Silo in the past.

I will say that seeing as how the numbers are flipped now and we will most likely be on the winning side for a while I hope that you all continue to play and show the level of perseverance that we did. Losing for months is hard, but we didn't quit ... and now here we are. Good luck.

[Vindal]

As an additional ask if you are getting any sort of INYOURFACELOLNOOB "Enjoy your second play trophy" pages/whatever from a Defiance member let me know directly. Even though we got treated that way I won't allow my members to do the same. Bickering will be bickering but anything beyond that is completely unacceptable.

[daedroth]

Nah, I do not mind getting beat at oad's/keys whatever. The grabbing and logging annoyed me aye, it was an enjoyable battle up until then. You said you will stop that, so that's good. That is not the reason though, but think it is if you like. I actually prefer to mindlessly level than go after keys/oads.
There is too much to be said, so I won't bother.
Have fun.

[Vindal]

If it is more than that then speak on it. I assumed it was since your previous comment said precisely that since before you edited it.

If you actually started up this discussion to have a discussion then let's have it.

[daedroth]

If it is more than that then speak on it. I assumed it was since your previous comment said precisely that since before you edited it.

If you actually started up this discussion to have a discussion then let's have it.

No point. The people who are playing this game are mainly the people who played Rok. We have all gotten older, but the personalities have remained unchanged.
There are some good peeps, but too much WAAC attitudes. I'm going to level for a bit while I decide if I can be bothered carrying on playing.
Either way, have fun peeps.

[Terron]

any clan that is outnumbered should just focus on winning one key every time, since the game is "spawn timer" just find which key is easiest to defend and winning that 1 key steady. even if you are only claiming 1 key the other clan(s) arent getting all of them either. just my opinion. i have yet to see any of this ingame, hardly anyone on when i play and usually only 1-2 afk clannies.

if the spawn timer crap is removed players will be in dreads all throughout the day not just large parties, also alot more anticipation as you could get a key and pks at anytime of the day not just X:XX o'clock a few times per day. ive already heard people talking about how they play at work and alter sleep schedules to camp a fkin key, that is beyond nuts..

[JadeFalcon]

You guys need to win the ultimate key.









The key to my chastity belt.

[daedroth]

Ok the harassment thing I was thinking about wasn't aimed at me, it was aimed at a friend, and it wasn't actually Defiant doing it (I never said it was, and was not aiming my attack at any clan - it was aimed at the people who do those actions, there are some decent people in Defiant and in other clans). I do not think I have been harassed in game (if I have been I have been blissfully unaware of the fact).
And as I have stated it wasn't just yesterdays action, it is just a culmination of things I have heard off/witnessed, that made me think, oh dear this is turning out to be old rok mkii.
I was more annoyed it was my friends who were feeling the effects. I am now back to chuckling at the WAAC'ers
I shouldn't have posted in the first place, since the people who are like this will never change anyway and will just think I am whining (and for the wrong reasons it seems).
Anyway, peace, love and all that hippy stuff.

[Satsujin]

Okay, this thread has very much served its purpose, and then some.